“So long, suck-ahhh!” – Bart Simpson
Because FOX sucks at scheduling, how about a two episode season finale? Why not!:
- After a clumsy introduction they’ve convinced themselves that repeating the phrase “Ki Ya” over and over again is funny. Also, why is Marge bathing Bart?
- This video with Pascal, in a voice that sounds like Azaria trying to keep himself awake, is just as boring as a real museum exhibit. I miss the zinc filmstrip.
- “Because people always laugh when you say sixty-nine. No one knows why.” – I bet this line got a big laugh in the screenwriting elective at Hollywood Upstairs Film College.
- Even before the show fell apart, Marge was usually a secondary character to Homer, but this is ridiculous. Here are her lines, in order, from the dinner table scene:
– “I still can’t believe it was Carl who took your winnings. I thought it would’ve been you, or you, or you.”
– “Maybe he had a reason to give you the ultimate screw over.”
– “You don’t know where Carl is from?”
– “Maybe if you talked less about guy stuff you’d know more about your so-called friend.” – She just repeats the crappy jokes as exposition in case anyone who was dozing missed them the first time. - Homer and Marge are discussing him going to Iceland (just in case anyone in the audience needed to be told a third time). At first, it’s just the two of them. And then, just like that, Bart and Lisa are sitting in their parents room . . . right until six seconds later when they aren’t.
- Okay, “Hodor’s Travel Guide” is pretty good.
- Ooh, the exciting Sigur Ros background music scene! That needed to be there.
- Now comes the exciting foot chase component to the car chase we just sat through.
- They catch Carl, and are immediately transported to a restaurant without having discussed anything in the interim. Seamless!
- Carl’s little soliloquy on friendship is about the third time they’ve discussed this so far. It won’t be the last.
- Um, are they on a bus now?
- Yes, they are. Also: more pointless montaging! It was almost three minutes since the last one.
- “I know Carl did you wrong, but is destroying something he cares that much about really going to make you feel good?” It goes on like this.
- Now it’s an exposition flashback. Jebus, this episode is a mess.
- Naturally, a learning Icelandic montage needed to be here.
- And now it’s multiple exposition flashbacks to finish the episode.
- “That’s for teaching me the true meaning of male friendship.” Surprisingly enough, this is not an episode of the G.I. Joe cartoon from the 1980s.
- And now you know not to use beer kegs as swimming pools . . . and knowing is half the battle.
Destination episodes sometimes provide a little humor here and there, if for no other reason than the writers finally have something to talk about that hasn’t already been done half a dozen times. “The Saga of Carl” managed to nullify even that small advantage by making the whole thing about a drama-free discourse on friendship from four well known characters. (And that’s before we get into the weird flashbacks.) That’s a tough act to follow in terms of sheer Zombie Simpsons failure; let’s see if “Dangers on a Train” is up to the task:
- And we open on a flashback to nine years ago when Bart is in a stroller and Homer has hair. I continue to not care about inter-episode continuity too much, but this is atrocious. They want to have the backdrop of Homer knocking Marge up accidentally, which we know happened in 1980, but change a bunch of other stuff. It’s really disorienting.
- Flanders is there, because of course.
- Okay, “Bikini Atoll” is pretty good.
- I realize they have to set up the episode somehow, but is Marge really supposed to be unable to tell the word “Dolly” from the word “Sassy” when they’re in forty-point font in the middle of the screen? (And she’s been to the site before?)
- So, Lovejoy is helping them because . . . what, the faulty database program that wrote this for them saw the word “train” on his character bio?
- I complain a lot about exposition that is useless at everything except killing time, but what else am I supposed to do with things like Homer saying this after he runs out of the kitchen away from Marge, “The surprise is safe. The expression on her face will be priceless”? We just fucking saw that!
- The phone rings, Marge answers it, and it’s Homer talking to Moe because they thought Marge didn’t have enough reason to continue talking with MacFarlane, or something? It’s a twofer: it’s unnecessary and doesn’t make sense.
- They can’t even have Homer talk to his brain without it breaking into screaming anymore.
- Marge having coffee with MacFarlane is about the third time she’s shut down conversation with him and then immediately lapsed. I sure enjoy watching someone repeat their actions over and over for twenty minutes.
- During their conversation, Marge mentions that her 11th anniversary coming up. Head, please meet desk. The opening titles told us, “Almost nine years ago . . .”, which introduced a scene showing their first anniversary. That would make the current events their 10th anniversary since 9 + 1 = 10. We’re not even halfway through this, so there’s no way those two things could be more than about fifteen pages apart in the script. This is unconscionably lazy editing. Two dozen professional writers are responsible for this script and have the better part of a year to work on it, and it contains the kind of sloppy mistake you’d expect on a high school paper that was begun a 3am the day it was due. That’s amazing.
- Honestly, I’m starting to think the exposition, especially Marge’s, is some kind of involuntary tic. As soon as the obviously wealthy old lady comes on their slightly renamed Downton Abbey thing, they cut to Marge to say “The dowager grandmum!”. People who watch that show obviously know who she is, and everyone else can figure out who she is by, you know, watching her. This one barely even counts as filler since it was so short. It makes no sense.
- Does it count as fan service if they stop MacFarlane from singing? Follow up question: whose fans?
- “Do you think we’ll last twenty-five years?” “Nothing should.” Well, that was thoughtful.
- Hey, look, they decided to have MacFarlane burst in at the end because the A-plot, even with all the exposition, fell woefully short of filling the prescribed runtime.
- And we end on two different dumbass musical numbers.
This episode is a prime example of why it’s not a good thing when the A-plot is barely B-plot in scope. This is theoretically about Marge thinking about cheating on Homer with Peter Griffin, but every time we see Marge interact with MacFarlane, she shuts it out as inconceivable. (Nevermind that just three seasons ago they had her all but fall in love with Flanders.) So Marge’s story in this episode basically goes like this: Homer makes me mad, I’ll spend some time with this guy, I’ll never cheat (repeat 3-5x). Her attraction to him doesn’t build on itself or deepen, it’s just the same damn thing over and over.
Meanwhile, Homer’s friends from Moe’s (and Reverend Lovejoy, because fuck it) are all working (apparently around the clock) on his big anniversary gift for her. For a split second, when they cut to the train being demolished accidentally, I thought something might be happening. Would Homer’s gift be destroyed and Marge’s suspicions about his forgetting get a little bit interesting? Of course not! The next time we see the train it’s all refurbished and good as new.
So, this story has two potential points of conflict: Marge cheating, and Homer’s anniversary gift failing. Neither one is ever seriously presented, and at the end – surprise, surprise – neither happens.
If funny stuff was happening along the way, you could maybe overlook some of that. Instead we get drawn out Downton Abbey scenes like “Bless it all, Polly, I love you. And we shall be wed by Boxing Day Eve, aka Christmas”. And the regular dialogue is no better, it’s godawful sitcom banter:
“Homey, I bet you’re wondering why I stayed on the computer until four am.”
“Hey, those Yelp reviews don’t write themselves. Did you know a well placed one-star can destroy a mom and pop hardware in nothing flat?”
Nothing says sparkling writing like naturally flowing setup-punchline combos that end with mildly topical references! It’s just like how me and my friends talk.
All told, both of these episodes have stories that don’t go anywhere and don’t make sense, feature wretched writing from start to finish, and seem to be comprised mostly of time wasting filler. If nothing else, it’s a fitting send off for yet another forgettable season.

25 responses to “Behind Us Forever: The Saga of Carl & Dangers on a Train (And Season 24!)”
I was nice to see Bart and Lisa acting like kids for once.
It was still out of character for Lisa to like that Ki Ya thing and NOT like the broing museum.
I know! She i sthe one that puts arts and science before dumb tv shows. they don’t even care anymore
Uh…I meant to say boring museum.
This is me after watching an episode:
“Calm down, Ned-dily-diddly-diddly-diddly… they did their best, shoddily-iddly-iddly-diddly… gotta be nice, hostily-iddly-diddly-iddly… Ah hell diddly-ding-dong-crap! Can’t you morons do anything right? “
+1
Ugh. The scene where they discuss the lottery ticket numbers is AWFUL.
Moe: “I always go with 3. The number of brothers and sisters I, uh, Hunger Games-ed in a war.”
Lenny: “19 for me. Uh, for the best year of my life, 1996.”
Carl: “My number’s 22. No reason. It’s just… 22.”
Homer: “And I’m 69! Because people always laugh when you say… 69! Hah, heh, heh… no one knows why.”
But just before that, they had previously established that this was their weekly lottery ticket, and Homer had already bought the ticket. So he already knew the numbers and whose numbers were whose. And there was no segue such as “say, you guys never told me why you picked these numbers,” so there was no reason for them to randomly open up about it. That kind of conversation would likely occur the first time they chose them, not randomly later on.
The worst part is, all they would have had to do was have Homer get the wrong idea from the museum exhibit and make this the FIRST time they ever bought a ticket, and the dialogue would have been perfectly natural instead of forced. In fact, it would have made sense this way too, since the probability video did a terrible job of explaining probability by naming a bunch of unlikely events, then showing all those events occurring to the main character. Just one simple change and this scene would have gone from terrible to tolerable.
The second worst part is, Lenny and Carl’s lines were complete throwaways. They just gave up. Lenny at least could have elaborated on why 1996 was the best year of his life. Carl could have had an actual reason. At least Moe’s and Homer’s lines were attempts to be humorous, but since I was watching in stunned silence due to the terrible pacing and plotting of the dialogue, I wasn’t even able to find those lines funny.
“Carl could have had an actual reason.”
It was revealed later in the episode that there WAS a reason for Carl’s number. It was the house number of his parents’ home or something like that. (What a twist(!))
The worst part is you get all that set up for a completely lame joke by Homer.
Again, the writing reminds me of something written by someone who grew up with the Simpsons desperately trying to recreate the classic humor only to come up with a lame parody where the original writers might have gone.
I think that’s exactly what it is.
I think Lenny’s line is a pretty solid bait-and-switch joke in theory, they just screwed up the writing. You’re meant to assume he’s talking about how great age 19 was for him, but then he reveals that he’s referring to 1996, which logically should be abbreviated to 96.
It doesn’t sound any better written out, but it has the makings of a good joke.
A Hunger Games reference…what’s next…Duck Dynasty?
I have a feeling that a Hunger Games “parody” is going to be in THOH this year.
I’m predicting a Hunger Games parody will come in about 2 or 3 years, (assuming the show is still on, god forbid) long after it stopped being new and relevant.
And also, there will be an episode where a character (probably Homer) gets addicted to an Angry Birds-like game. In typical Zombie Simpsons fashion, it comes years after the height of it’s popularity.
Didn’t their Phantom Menace parody come out after ALL of the Star Wars prequels had already been released?
Okay, how did nobody notice this: The squeaky-voiced teen was already a teen ten years ago?
You all think it was awful. You all agree that there is matter for discussion there, on how awful it was. Why don’t you just NOT watch it instead? Just go ahead and NOT watch the next season premiere. I’m pretty sure you guys can do it.
Don’t get tempted by whatever they will put in for advertisement next time. Don’t turn on the fucking TV. There is nothing that can fix the show anymore. Just. DO. NOT. WATCH. IT.
TV? What TV?
;)
Oh, did I say TV? Sorry, I meant TPB =)
You act as if watching it or not watching it will change things. The ratings don’t matter. The way to stop the show would be to not buy the games/t-shirts/coffee mugs/dvds/rugs/car bumper stickers/golf club covers/alarm clock radios/tickle-me homer dolls/novelty condoms/chewable morpheine, since THAT is what keeps the show running. Watching or not watching the show now is irrelevant. We might as well discuss how bad the show is, since this is, after all, a website/community dedicated to detailing how the cancellation of the show would be better for all. Hard to comment on the decline in the show’s quality without it. Plus everyone loves torturing themselves just a little.
1) The ratings depend directly on the number of people turning their tvs on at the specific time, therefore “watching” it. The merchandise is an important factor, perhaps for the management, but it alone cannot keep the show running if FOX gets ratings lower than anything new they would premiere (it didn’t happen yet, but at this rate it pretty much will past season 25). Plus, it’s been probably 10 years I personally haven’t bought any Simpsons shit (including the DVDs).
2) The show has reached its “absolute zero” by now, meaning that for me, it’s at the point where not watching it would rather be more constructive than watching it. It doesn’t need any more to be reviewed, detailed and criticized. What it requires now is a simple push in the right direction, so it can finally get off the air. Besides, I think it’s been the first season of which I didn’t watch over 5 episodes EVEN AFTER reading their reviews. That never happened to me before. I guess I’m a hedonist, and not a masochist after all…
” The ratings depend directly on the number of people turning their tvs on at the specific time, therefore ‘watching’ it.”
How would they know if I’m watching it if I’m not a Neilson family? (I get my tv over-the-air.)
It you don’t own whatever cable or DVRs of course they won’t. But for the record I live in Montreal and the best I could get without paying for such stuff was Global Canada.
Ironic RL, all of that stuff and more is what Krusty the Clown marketed to people, as shown in the episode where Homer attends clown college.
Did Ben/Seth slide over to the aisle Marge was down?
They really didn’t try at all with the Downton Abbey parody. I watch the show myself, and I agree on the exposition.
As for Lovejoy helping them, that didn’t bother me half as much as the fact that they somehow knew to go to him for help. How well-known is Lovejoy’s interest in trains? I suppose it made sense on paper – Lovejoy DOES like trains, he probably would’ve been involved if he’d known about it – but how did he know about it? Has he suddenly became a frequent visitor to the bar? Did he have some sixth sense that tells him where he’s needed (the same one that told him to return to church in “Pulpit Friction”, perhaps?)?